THAT HAS GOT TO BE A DOWNER....as a bike owner that has to lock his bike in public (in South East London) I have one of the orange kryptonites in the video...my only solution is to have an old delapitated looking ride that I keep well serviced but looks not worth nicking...it is crap LPL... and I don't aways feel you're on our side 👉🇬🇧👈🚮👉🙏👉⚠️👈
I bought a cheap chinese Disc Detainer Padlock and now apparently I really need the tool that BosnianBill and LockPickingLawyer designed. 2 dollars for the lock, 45 for the picking tool
Can i ask why you turn all the discs clockwise? Could it also be all counterclockwise and tension the other way? (so it is preference, or is it really needed?)
The logic that they used to make their conclusion lacks even basic reasoning. Yes, these lock pick pros didn't have the tools to pick bike locks, but you know who probably does have those tools . . . Someone who wants to steal bikes.
Kids in New York City will be hard at work at these locks he’ll be saying two feels loose click out of three we got a click out of four click out of five six feels loose click out of seven and we gotta open
The New York Times basically lets anyone publish an opinion article as long as it’s well written and interesting. Someone who works for the Taliban once wrote a piece (www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/opinion/taliban-afghanistan-war-haqqani.amp.html ) (Edited to fix link)
The real lesson here is to make sure to lock your bike in a way that make accessing the keyway as challenging as possible to help prevent picking. Hard to pick a lock when you can't fit in your tools.
I happenened to have a neighbour twice sticking toothpicks or matches into my abus folding lock. How would you have removed them? I had to call the police, and at least there was 1 guy who found it funny to open such a lock...
"It's like taking your car to a mechanic who doesn't have the right wrench sizes, and concluding that your car can't be fixed." This is the standard logic of the media these days.
I'm curious to know if you have a video picking a Xena XX-6 Disc lock or any of the Xena Motorcycle disc brake locks? Also what's the best disc brake lock you would recommend ?
Obviously the author of the NYT Wirecutter article wasn't very good at his/her job. LPL would be the first and only person to consult when writing this kind of article. The fact that the author didn't do this shows great negligence and misunderstanding of the subject.
i'm wondering if The LPL has any designs for an UN- pickable lock . If he were to come up with such a thing , he would become a billionaire almost over night .
Right, but people seem to think pigeons are wild animals that opportunistically made their way into cities like raccoons, rats, and seagulls. But city pigeons are the descendants of domestic pigeons that got released. That makes them more analogous to stray dogs. They're used to humans and they don't know how to live in the wild. It's a problem we created.
You might need to contact StuffMadeHere and give him a deadline or something. I think he's the type to keep updating his 'Mona Lisa Lock' until a robot related accident results in a box of 8000 prototype locks he deigned 'not quite right' arriving at your door as part of his robot-delivered will.
Considering how many thiefs don´t bother with soft opening methods and how many professional lockpick services get flumoxxed by these lock types, i would say they are still pretty damn safe locks. Also LPL what you consider easy skills and cheap tools, even though they technicaly are, are not considered such by many looking to make quick money by being scumbags (aka thiefs).
I bought a bike from a co-worker that had a kryptonite evolution locked around the top tube with no key. A $15 harbor freight grinder made quick work. Fun fact, you can return a cut-open lock to kryptonite for a replacement at half cost!
I'm assuming you're looking at this from a position of restricting his freedom of speech rather than encouraging these companies to produce better products and people to be more aware. Sad.
He just destroyed the NYT all because they went cheap on the last detail. Good job. Consistency & Quality or go home NYT. Kryptonite should up that game real soon.
Heh, I waited over a year to get the pick that LPL and Bosnian Bill made. Man it was worth the wait though. SOOO much better than the cheap Chinese POS I was trying to pick disk detainers with before.
Do you ever wonder how many bikes or other things are stolen by people who were educated by your channel? And do you go to sleep on your big pillow of rationale that tells you 'I'm educating people - they could find this information and tools elsewhere,' ignoring that your popularity makes this information even MORE accessible and understandable for people who want to steal things?
Well I'm not the LPL but maybe I can indulge your question. The 🔐 picking lawyer is literally a lawyer. So he probably knows all the loop holes in curtailing most if not all potential legal action.
I guess the manufacturer will probably doing this, sell the lock brand to a “you know where” company and leave the mess. A chinesium lock don't require tools you made, just a paper clip waggle few times will do. Eventually a 4 year old can open that, the entire concept pf locking will be toast. Dudes don't know the story will still paying 50 bucks hanging those thing invite somebody to steal their bike. The key is, manufacturers are businessmen, why they have to earn money the hard way if there is a easy way by selling brands? This trend happens to all manufacturing for a long time, from fake ranch to precision tools for decades, why not locks?
Are you and Bosnian Bill still friends? You haven't done a collaborative video with him in forever, and only ever mention him when you mention your tool.
Dam this makes me want to start bringing my bicycle with me everywhere I go.That said I am particular about where and when I leave my bicycle locked up outside.
The author did just what one is supposed to do, they went to multiple professionals to get a consensus. It's not his fault that they were all wrong. But daaaaaaaamn, do really NONE of them know about this channel? They can't be too into their career!
I sold a bike once with a lock very similar to this... the next day the guy comes and asks me if I stole my bike back... I of course said WTF? that was a 1500 dollar bike... he then proceeds to show me the lock that came with the bike, keys and all.
2 million of his subscribers are bike thieves lol. Good thing I live in freezing cold Sweden. Your fingers will turn black before you even begin to pick my Evolution lock lol. I'm happy it took the best lock picker in the world 45 seconds under perfect conditions to open it.
Wirecutter implied it was a size issue - that none of the lockpickers had the tools to fit the "the smaller keyways" that most bike locks use. Does anyone know what they meant? Was this just a case where none of the people there had any kind of disc detainer pick, of any size, or would the size of a bike lock be a real issue?
To be fair there are going to be a very small amount of bike thiefs out there with the skills and tools to pick these locks. Angle grinder attacks would be a way more common attack against these locks. And from what i heard the thick kryptonite lock fares pretty well against those too.
I love how he tells how easy it is for ppl to pick these locks. and then he shows ppl how to do it. this video is telling thieves exactly what they need to steel bikes.
There are lots of strategies to not having your bike stolen the best of which involve persuading the thief to steal someone else´s bike. However if you do have to lock your bike a good idea is to use two different types of lock, for instance a standard cable lock and one one these D locks. If the thief needs to use at least two different types of tool to get your bike they are much more likely to try for someone elses.
It's kind of the reason why newspapers usually have out-of-date news anyway........ They don't even have enough funding to get professionals in multiple certain fields to go out and write a decent article anymore
The best way to avoid having your bike stolen is not to have the best bike lock, it's to have a better bike lock and a cheaper bike than the person next to you.
I would LOVE to see LPL get his hands on a transparent version of these disc detainer cores, I would love to watch the inner workings of these locks while they are being picked. I know he's shown the cheapo clear padlock from amazon, but man... I'd love to see how this works on the inside.
Kryptonite: We have the best lock that can't be picked easily LPL: Tool is cheap, skills are easily developed. They better pick up their game. Kryptonite: *just wants to make money so they don't change it up.
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